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Beating the UK brokerage via true arbitrage - £8k -> £98k ($128k) since 21st April

Beating the UK brokerage via true arbitrage - £8k -> £98k ($128k) since 21st April
Alright you American autists, here's a gains post from the UK across the pond - listen up because it's pretty incredible, managed to screw over our broker to turn ~£8k into £98k / $128k USD by reading the small print, true u/fuzzyblankeet style.

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Unfortunately, we don't have options trading, commission free robinhood which crashes, or any other US based degeneracy, but instead we British chaps can trade "CFDs" ie. 'contracts-for-difference', which are essentially naked long / short positions with a 10-20% margin (5-10x leveraged), a 'holding cost' and you could theoretically lose more than your initial margin - sounds like true wallstreetbets autism, right? Well grab a lite beer (or whatever you lite alcoholic chaps drink over there) and strap in for this stuff:
So, CMC Markets, a UK based CFD brokerage, wanted to create a West Texas Intermediate Crude Oil 'Spot' product, despite WTI contracts trading in specific monthly expirations which can thus have severe contango effects (as all of you $USO call holders who got screwed know) - this was just a product called "Crude Oil West Texas - Cash", and was pegged to the nearest front-month, but had no expiry date, only a specific holding cost -> already a degenerate idea from their part.
So in early April, just before when the WTI May-20 expiry contract 'rolled' at **negative** $-37, the "WTI Cash" was trading at $15 at the time, but the *next* month June-20 expiry was still $30+ we (I am co-running an account with an ex-Goldman colleague of mine) simultaneously entered into a long position on the "WTI - Cash" product, and went short on the "WTI Jun-20 expiry", a pure convergence play. Sure enough, the June-20 tanked the following week, and we made over £35k, realised profits. But meanwhile the May-20 also tanked, and we were down £28k. But rather than realise this loss, we figured we could just hold it until Oil prices recover, and profit on both legs of the trade.
However, CMC Markets suddenly realised they are going to lose a lot of money with negative oil prices (Interactive Brokers lost $104m, also retards), so they screwed everyone holding the "WTI - Cash" product trading at $8 at the time, and pegged it to the December 2020 expiry trading at $30, with a 'discount factor' to catch up between the two.
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Now fellow autists, read the above email and try to figure out what the pure arbitrage is. CMC markets will charge us a 0.61% **per day** holding cost (calculated as the 10x levered value of whatever original margin you put up, so in our case £8k*10x=£80k*0.61% = £500 per day, £1.5k on weekends for extra fun) on our open positions, but also "increase" the position value by 0.61% per day vs. the **previous day's** WTI - Cash value. Got it yet? No? Still retarded? Here's where maths really helps you make tendies:-> If your 'cost' is fixed at 0.61% of your original levered position, but your 'gains' are 0.61% of the previous day's position, then your gains will be ever increasing, whereas your costs are fixed.
So we added some extra £££ (as much as we could justifiably put into a degenerate 10x levered CFD account) and tried to see if it works. Long story short, it does. At this point in July we were making **over £1k per day on a £8k initial position*\* regardless where the WTI Dec-20 fwd moved.
Unfortunately, eventually CMC markets realised what utter retards they were, and closed down the arbitrage loophole, applying the holding costs to the previous day's value. But not before we turned £8k into £98k, less holding costs.
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Long story short, puts on $CMCX they're total retards, and given what a startup robinhood / other brokerages are, never assume that only they are the ones taking your tendies away, sometimes you can turn the tables on them!
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Genesis Vision ~ TL;DR ~ 2019

Genesis Vision - TL;DR - 2019
Current stats:
The Genesis Vision team have confirmed the next big update is due by February 28th 2019. There will be many new features and improvements which as of yet are unnannouced
Development underway for 2019:
  • Shorting & leveraged trading (achieved by integration with new brokers/partners below):
  • Trading via Huobi for GVT program managers
  • Trading via Exante
  • Trading via OKEx for GVT program managers
  • Integration with decentralized exchanges Idex and Forkdelta
  • Allowing the deposit and handling of multiple currencies (GVT, BTC, ETH, USDT) on the GV platform. - This is to avoid unccessary conversions. All profits will still be payed out in GVT. So effectively this will only ease the selling pressure while still positively affecting the GVT price
Genesis Vision in 2018:
  • Metatrader integration
  • Genesis Vision Alpha Version
  • IPFS Integration
  • Numerous trading competitions
  • Launch of Genesis Markets
  • Launch of the iOS & Android Genesis Vision apps
  • Live Platform Launch ~ 30th October
  • Completely overhauled UI/UX for iOS, Android, Investors & Manager portals
  • Fresh website for GV & GM
  • Finance Magnates London Summit
  • Sofia Investor Finance Forum
  • Huobi prestige Investors Fireside Dialogue (speakers)
  • Launch of Genesis Vision Funds
  • GV Market Maker
  • Removal of entry fees for level 1 & 2 managers
  • New leveling system ->
  • Forex trading went live ->
In the works for the future (some speculation)
  • Chinese promotion - The platform and all of the reading materials will be translated into Chinese
  • Genesis Vision DEX
  • Genesis Vision Network ->
  • Fiat Gateway
  • Bank & Stocks Integration
  • Further platform development for GV & Genesis Markets
  • Further development of all versions of the platform, ie iOS & Android
  • I personally believe we will see GVT listed on some exchanges in 2019
Current Partnerships:
  • Tools4Brokers
  • LMAX Digital
  • Just2Trade
  • Larson&Holz
  • Monarch
  • RoboForex
  • Exante
Platform statistics
  • See -> https://gvtstats.com for info regarding platform balances etc.!
  • Or follow @GVTProgressBot on Twitter for updates every 24 hours
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Log of AMA with coindash - @alon (Alon) CEO from CoinDash.io

boldninja Let us all give a warm welcome to @alon (Alon) CEO from CoinDash.io. AMA can begin, give him some time to catch on with questions and answers.
bangomatic :clapping:
alon Hi Everyone!
jakethepanda :clapping:
tranzer hi @alon
alon Great to be here!
arigard All this BTC shit is just a storm in a teacup anyway
jakethepanda Hey @alon
dr10 Welcome
tranzer @alon how does coindash compare to Iconomi and their user-based funds you'll be able to invest / copy?
jakethepanda On top of that question, include Melonport.
5eb6o Sorry as I said I am drunk.. and I welcome everyone.. but why coindash? I mean isn't it pretty close to dash coin... or I am missing something... why not something unique
joelafc LOL
darius sup alon
welcome to the thunderdome
alon Hi, i think Melonport and ICONOMI are more of an investment instrument.. they provide a tool for people to invest in crypto assets. We are more focused on answering what peopel whould invest in and when. For that end we also intend to integrate with both of them because there is a good chance they will become a good investment instrument
tranzer are there any partnership plans already in the making with them?
dr10 So its more like a Follow Trader platform, where you do the moves that successful traders do?
alon @tranzer i can't comment on that for the next 24H :slightly_smiling_face:
ben123 Got it
alon @dr10 social trading is a great means for reducing friction for inexperienced and new traders, making crytpo trading more accessible
jakethepanda Can you briefly explain how the coin fits in to the platform?
darius ^ this
dr10 Is Coindash its own blockchain or based ontop of another?
boldninja Where do CoinDash tokens come in play? I mean where will they play a role, like paying someone subscription for private portfolio c/p or tipping or something different?
jake beat me to it :smile:
ben123 I think that's what I read about them
alon @jakethepanda we see it as fuel for using various features on the platform. If you follow someone and copy his investments you will pay a fee for that ... that fee is payed with the CDT token
@dr10 we connect to the various blockchains/ exchanges
ben123 How will you be able to compete against enigma? It's similar to your concept and they seem very promising.
tranzer When will the copy and paste functionality be introduced into your dashboard, product?
dr10 so you are your own blockchain? didnt get that
alon @tranzer we are expected to release copy-ICO towards the end of the year... until then we will work hard on the dashboard and other investor exploration (we will be rolling versions fairly fast once every 2-3 weeks)
@dr10 we are not
darius So the platform need it’s own token to tip someone? Sounds like you coulda built an app without it’s own token tbh.
its*
tranzer Are you in the talks with any of the exchange yet? Probably we'll see you on Bittrex correct?
alon not tip but reward top investors who get followed.. also the followers get financial benefit from that so its natural they will pay for it
@tranzer yes we in talks with some exchanges
jakethepanda The beta currently only allows for a link to an ETH address. Will be able to link say an ARK address, eventually?
darius Do you mean top investors are rewarded by the platform with your token? How would that work, is that based off how long they hold a top position?
alon @jakethepanda we already integrated various blockcahins and exchanges.. we will start rolling them soon
numba1enigma How do risk adjusted returns fitinto all this
alon @darius they are rewarded by the people following them as fees.
@numba1enigma that an important indicator to understand how your portfolio performs against the market. This will roll out soon alongside other indicators
darius Oh so this is taking private paid advise discords/slacks and putting them all on a platform.
Clever
numba1enigma Tell me what a sharp ratio is?
alon @darius imagine you can see the performances of the bet traders in the space, follow them and copy their investments... this is what social trading is
numba1enigma The following and payment mechanism in terms of sharp ratios
Roi of two managera without sharp ratio considerations is worthless
tranzer There is bonus in first week - 30% how will that be awarded will first week deposits count for example if you invest 1 ETH count as 1.3 ETH?
jakethepanda On top of @numba1enigma question, what kind of risk analytics will be on the platform?
alon first day is 30%... you will get immediatley 30% additional tokens
numba1enigma Byw the way iconomi and co foundit didn't know what a sharp ratio was until two months ago
alon @numba1enigma i'm not sure i follow... various indicators effect the performance and risk level of the investors. Risk adjusted returns could very much reflect how truly profitable that investor is and lets you decide how much risk you want to take by following him
darius Who are your competitors? I know there’s a platform that does this but I can’t think of their name for the life of me
alon @darius you probably are talking about eToro maybe?
numba1enigma You should take a look at markov analytic tools to bucket mutual fund returnes to rank performance
It would be helpful to you
ben123 Enigma ico is coming out in August and they seem to be a competitor also.
tranzer How many users are there already using your platform currently? How much joining lately on daily base?
jakethepanda How does fiat integration figure into the platform? Trading directly from the platform will be available?
alon @tranzer we opened the beta 11 days ago. Now we have 2.5K users with 200-250 added daily
@jakethepanda thats something we are interested in but will come in a later change. It fits very well in our mission to make crypto trading more accessible to the public
darius https://1broker.com/?c=en/home 1broker.com 1Broker.com - Bitcoin Forex & CFD Trading 1Broker connects Bitcoin with global markets. Trade forex, stocks, commodities, indices and cryptocurrencies on our minimalist platform.
That’s the one i saw a couple twitter guys say they were on
https://1broker.com/?c=en/content/copy-trader 1broker.com Copy Trader - Social Trading - 1Broker (2kB)
ben123 Seems interesting
jakethepanda I noticed that RSk is one of your partners. Will CDT also be on Rootstock?
alon We did a POC integration with RSK with the CoinDash platform a few months ago... more will be announced in the coming month (very interesting stuff)
jakethepanda Interesting
tranzer alon would you consider something like that with Ark as well? Seems like a nice fit.
alon @tranzer definitely!
jakethepanda I noticed there isn't anyone on the team with a quant finance background. Who is developing the risk/performance analytics?
alon you should learn more about Adam and Ram.. both with a lot of experience in finance (Adam opened eToro's offices in Shanghai). Most the team has years of experience in crypto trading as well
tranzer will you be able to leverage coindash coins against some investors and use other coins to trade if that makes sense?
jakethepanda Since many people in crypto are new to trading and investing will there be tutorials and investment education tools? Based on questions noobs ask they need this. (edited)
jarunik I still don't really get how adding the coin to the mix brings any advantage compared to other social trading platforms. What do I miss?
alon yes there will be tutorials and mostly beautifully made UX/ UI
tranzer how are tokens going to be saved? Will this be centralized? I mean in order to copy someone you'll need to move coins within platform no?
alon the CoinDash Token enable us to fund our activity and create an amazing community around the product who have a huge incentive to help (in our case the investors are also the end users). We tie the token to the platform so its success is also the success of the token.
so for the copy-ICO feature foe example we use smart contracts
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BTW :slightly_smiling_face:
mike Nice looking announcement
jarunik You could just do that with a normal crowdfunding ... what incentives give the coins exactly ? (edited)
jakethepanda Will there be a mobile app?
alon yes
tranzer Where do you get current prices from CMC or have your own service?
jakethepanda The beta app doesn't seem very social. How will the future version of the app change to be more of a social platform? (edited)
alon from CryptoCompare curently
next step will be the ability to discover other investors and follow them
darius @jarunik This way they don’t have to go through VC’s to raise a $12 MM seed fund. Use the hype of ICO’s to raise it instead because people want to profit from their coin.
alon the dashboard is the data layer on top of which the social feature will come
tranzer so if 12m is raised in first day its over no additional time and some other weird rules like we have seen with few recent icos?
jakethepanda Can you discuss any of the partnerships on the web page? Antshares or Wings?
One concern I have is that whitelisted addresses are going to buy up the entire offering. Do you have any mechanisms in place to avoid this?
alon Wings we did the forecasting and used some of their tech. AntShares, Tony the CEO invested and is our advisor
jakethepanda Thanks
alon i don't think they will buy it all... its a way for us to say thank you to the people who supported us, its not a long list. 250 people list
jakethepanda You would be surprised how much money is floating around crypto. It only takes one or two whales in the 250.
darius lol
jakethepanda I can think of 10 people in crypto that can blow a big dent in that cap.
Just saying
alkar Can my profile be private if ever I don't want to share my portfolio
alon i am too but most of those people gave us huge help the past year... people who were our first social media users.. beta testers stuff like that
@alkar yes, it can be totally private
darius That’s promising
can you answer @tranzer’s question “so if 12m is raised in first day its over no additional time and some other weird rules like we have seen with few recent icos?”
alon no weird stuff... very simple ICO :slightly_smiling_face:
guys my phone might die any second so if i'm cut off its ebecause of that
tranzer that is good to hear, didn't like how some were handling recent icos, extending time, adding some last minute changes, ...
jakethepanda @alon The project looks amazing. I'm out of questions for now. I will get you in your slack if I think of more.
boldninja Any last questions for @alon as his battery might die out?
jarunik Do you have a battery bank? :smile:
jakethepanda I think it died
boldninja Can you sell battery bank energy back into the network? :thinking_face:
alon No dead yet ;)
jakethepanda One more question. Is that Warren Buffet on your web page?
On the product page.
alon Ahah might be a caricature(my fav investor)
jakethepanda Haha
Everyone can join coindash slack https://www.coindash.io/slack/
boldninja OK I think no more questions are coming - I'd like to thank alon for taking his time to do this AMA and I wish him a good and successful launch of ICO and product later on. Hope we'll be able to cooperate further down the line. You are always welcomed here at Ark.
darius Thank you! Good luck
jakethepanda Thanks @alon
tranzer thank you for answering my questions @alon - good luck!
alon Thank you guys! Hope to see you as users of our platform
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